Baanx's chief commercial officer, Simon Jones, discusses the integration of crypto debit cards into daily transactions and their potential to drive broader crypto adoption. The convergence of crypto with traditional finance (TradFi) faces challenges like liquidity constraints and the need for seamless technical integration. Baanx, established in 2018, has formed significant partnerships with companies like Ledger, $1inch, and Mastercard. Their flagship product, the Crypto Life Card, allows users to spend crypto at over 90 million merchants worldwide and is available in 32 countries. The interview highlights the importance of account abstraction and self-custody in enhancing the functionality and security of crypto payments. Jones also discusses the impact of financial technology convergence on the future of crypto and traditional finance, emphasizing the role of strategic partnerships in fostering mass market adoption.